18 March 2012

QUINCICASM















Quincicasm for Saydisc UK from 1973.

Bass, Flute – Malcolm Bennett ; Drums, Percussion – Michael Ormerod, Nigel Smith ; Flugelhorn – Dick Pearce ; Saxophone – Ken Eley ; Vibraphone, Keyboards – Julian Marshall ; Vocals – Katy Zeserson (Trent Park Song)

First time out in blogland for this British jazz rarity from 1973.Apparently only 200 copies were ever pressed however anyone who downloaded Tony Higgins' Impressed 3 compilation will have had an introduction to in the shape of "Trent Park Song".
I hi-jacked this write up about the album from Prof at Rocketrecordings:
Seemingly obscure 73 Brit Jazz lp in a free avant-fusion-prog type vein with no vocals. Don't know if this quintet were from Gloucestershire but Saydisc records are an occasional sighting in the South West charity shops. All but 2 of their releases, as far as know, are local spoken word comedy and observation esp. by the likes of Geoffrey Woodruff, church bell lps or Victorian mechanical music records. The other ‘band’ lp is a folk lp I haven’t heard by ‘Black and White’. It’s usually touted as acid folk but apparently it is quite bland, although I admittedly haven’t heard it but does look like cabaret folk . Who knows, it may be amazing because of this and maybe I will never find out.
Anyway I have affection for Saydisc what with there local roots and that oval label design that reminds me of the now demolished ‘aids recovery’ Lucozade building. It looks like it was created in the 50s and still thought of by Saydisc, as a perfect logo even for something 20 years later like early seventies free jazz prog. Apparently the recording is taken from a live gig in front of a load of school kids at Dartington Hall and the key man went on to form 'the flying Lizards' who had a hit with Money in the late 70s. Got this info from the highly informative and sometimes infuriatingly opinionated Galactic Ramble book'.
The overall sound is quiet apart from ‘Winds of Change’, a non-whistling, free jazz excursion with electric piano stabs and effective Sabbath-prog bass/electric piano intro and coda from Geddy Lee-a like Malcolm Bennett. Lots of sax blowing followed by flugel horn and nice wah organ. Shame there's no fuzz
Side 1 is taken up by Time & Motion, a band composition which on the whole is very mellow for the first part with just percussion and tends to go from electric-miles type freakouts to very contemplative parts with a wide range of sounds including vibes and flute. All quite free and one of the stronger tracks on the lp.
Side 2 is taken up by 3 tracks written by key man Julian Marshall. Trent Park Song is quite calm and meditative with some Norma Winstone-type scat vocal from Katy Zeserson. In my limited knowledge it reminds of some of Nucleus’ more quiet moments although not as memorable. Its pleasant enough though. Karen, the last track is a polite instrumental love song of some kind and it’s the weakest track for me. Nice enough but nearly lounge and probably sealed the deal with the Saydisc gang. Its hard to track down but that’s probably due more to the obscure band name.
What or who is Quincicasm?

Answers on a postcard c/o Comments....

27 comments:

Bacoso said...

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Ian Van Groove said...

What a rare find, intriguing listen. Diggin' it!

Adam See said...

Feeling this. Real nice.

Thanks man,
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jazzuk said...

Always up for an obscurity. Thanks!

jazzuk said...

Always up for an obscurity. Thanks!

Dave Heasman said...

Saydisc also, I think, released blues records, under the aegis of Ian A Anderson.

Dave Heasman said...

And folk. Pete Lawrence.

Feq'wah said...

Well, you have Quincy Jones and you have sarcasm...Quincicasm, no?

Okay, i don't know, but thanks for the share :)

saomusubi said...

Thanks Bacoso!

the jazzstronaut said...

Cheers for introducing me to a new one Bacoso, highly appreciated.

Snake_Keys said...

Amazing!!!
A lot of thanks my friend :-)

bongo hito said...

Is there no bottom to your crate, man? Well done!

Hanimex 3000 said...

deep enough to be tried, thanks for sharing...
NewBell

Bender said...

Thanks a lot, Bacoso! Will listen to this one tomorrow.

Mimi Soul said...

Thanks a lot ! And another discovery :)

Peace

Willis said...

Yes, man. Your taste is exquisite.

LYSERGICFUNK said...

AMAZING !
Many Many Thanks for this post

anon #108 said...

Blimey. How odd to be idly googling myself and come across this slice of juvenilia. For that's me up there on that jukebox, aged 20 and trying (not hard enough!) to do the Weather Report-y thing on bass and flute.

If anyone's interested, the band was formed by keyboard-ist and ex-Dartington College student Julian Marshall - who was later to have a top ten (I think) hit with Kit Hain ('Marshall Hain') "Summer in the City". I met him through a jazz cigarette-smoking pal, cellist Hugh McDowell, who went on to play with ELO. Hugh lived/hung out for a while in a flat in Archway, London (was it?) with drummer Mike Ormerod. How Mike met Julian I don't know, but they were all well into Weather Report. I was asked to play...as was proper jazzers Dick Pierce and Ken Eley. Hence Quincicasm. I thought we were called Sasafras but, clearly, I was wrong. Anyhow, down to Devon we went and recorded this effort, yes live in front of schoolkids...er Daqrtington College students and their mums n dads. Happy days!

I went on to play with medieval folk-proggers Gryphon, Michael Nyman Band, The Home Service, directed music for Peter Hall and Harry Birtwistle's Oresteia at the National Theatre and so forth. Still playing...prefer pop songs now :)

Thanks a bunch for this, Bacoso. Not sure what I'll do with it now I got it...but thanks ;)

Malcolm Bennett - these days and for some time known as Malcolm Markovich.

anon #108 said...

Sorry Julian - Dancing, not Summer, in the City. And Julian didn't form the Flying Lizards. He played with them and had a lot to do with the big hit "Money," but the FLs was David Cunningham's project.

Malcolm

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Bacoso said...

anon#108:thanks for the info v interesting.Cheers for dropping in...

Ozzy said...

Thanks a lot Mister for this rarity!

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jazzbrett said...

thanks bacoso for this intriuging find!

Gildas said...

Hou! Trent Park Song feat. Katy Zeserson: What a great piece !

Just realized I didn't say THANKS on this one ! No way I could have discovered this gem without you dear Bacoso.

Heavy and light as the same time, virtuose piano, celestial flute, almost funky flugelhorn, sweet windy voice... Just GREAT !

Just remind me pianist Albert Dailey "The Day After The Dawn" 1972.

This song also perfectly fits with Nola strumental

Here is my own summary after some search here and there:

Saydisc UK 1973.

Written, Vibraphone, Keyboards – Julian Marshall
Vocals – Katy Zeserson (Trent Park Song)
Bass, Flute – Malcolm Bennett
Drums, Percussion – Michael Ormerod, Nigel Smith
Flugelhorn – Dick Pearce
Saxophone – Ken Eley

British jazz rarity from 1973. Only 200 copies were ever pressed.

Apparently the recording is taken from a live gig at Dartington College Hall in front of a load of school kids + their mums n dad (source: Galactic Ramble book)

This quintet may be from Gloucestershire as Saydisc records are an occasional sighting in the South West charity shops

The band was formed by keyboard-ist and ex-Dartington College student Julian Marshall - who was later to have a top hit with rock band 'Marshall Hain' "Dancing in the City" (summer 1978) + "Money" with the Flying Lizards (a David Cunningham's project). He was roomate with cellist Hugh McDowell, who went on to play with ELO. Hugh lived/hung out for a while in a flat in Archway, London with drummer Mike Ormerod. They were all well into Weather Report. Hence Quincicasm!

rebf942 said...

What an interesting find - thank you

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